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Friday, September 25, 2015

Rogue Decks?

Yesterday I was contacted by one fellow Magic player (he wanted his Vintage deck altered). Not entirely sure how but he ended up telling me how he hates everyone playing tier 1 decks here (because he was used to winning in the States, and here it is not the case) and that he would only play rogue decks that have nothing to do with the tier 1 decks (He's playing Burn or some kind of Affinity/Metalcraft decks usually). I tried to tell him how it looks like here and that it won't most probably change to anything less competitive since more casual players don't usually show up at tournament scene. I tried to make him understand that this is how it is and he either accepts it or not. He can play his 'rogue decks' as he called them if he wishes to, but that won't change the fact that some decks will just utterly beat him.

After this I was wondering what a rogue deck is nowadays? There are people who claim they play rogue decks and but they usually avoid (I mean they make sure NOT TO PLAY them) playing the best cards in the format (and the ones that are the most popular). Their decks can be Rogue but there is something wrong with their attitude from my point of view. For me a Rogue deck is any kind of deck that tries to win against the current meta in a way that is not common - it tries to break the format or at least try to survive in the format and still be able to win (this certainly is true even for a budget deck). That does not mean though that the deck needs to play cards that are not commonly played. Why should one limit himself/herself in such a way? Many decks that people call rogue are budget decks here but a rogue deck does not need to be cheap in order to be recognized as 'rogue'. Such a deck can become tier 1 deck later on. Or just stay in the format with less popularity. I'd say UR Tutelage is one of such a decks in standard. Someone felt that the format will soon change from all the aggressive red decks into slower midrange/control decks that can be easily milled. That person took the deck to a tournament and won. Rogue decks are often tweaked for the meta and can deal mainly with the most popular tier 1 deck(s). Some though are really broken and become staple decks later (see Dregde).

In standard we have decks like Mono White Aggro, Naya Prowess, UR Tutelage or Elves. In Modern there is RGw Zoo, Esper Tokens (Polymorph, Proteus Staff) or RG Scapeshift for example. Those are decks that I would consider Rogue. These decks are already quite known because someone played with them and probably won a tournament with them (and people started copying those decks). But all these decks started in someone's head as pure rogue decks. There are many decks that can still emerge and be able to fight the current meta. If I were to think of something I would build a deck around Rally the Ancestors for standard (or even Modern, how aout destroying all land?). I guess many people are looking for ways to abuse this card. After playing with Rally Elves I started to like the Rally the Ancestors very much (because I misread the card several times and finally when I played the card for the third time on MODO my brain finally registered what the card REALLY does). I like the idea of Siege Rhino, that's kinda straightforward. I also lik the idea of milling myself and then getting the cards back (Satyr Wayfinder, Nyx Weaver that can recycle the Rally). The only card I missed in the elf deck is some kind of sacrifice outlet. On the other hand though I was looking in a wrong way - because the creatures considered only were similar to Nantuko Husk - but there is a better way to sacrifice creatures in standard (except Butcher of the Horde). There is this exploit mechanic that I really liked in DTK. Expoit is ideal for a deck like this. The cards that come in mind are good in limited but some cards could be possibly used in constructed. For example Gurmag Drowner can look for another Rally. Qarsi Sadist could be considered as well even though the impact is not so great, but still it is a cheap blocker, 'deals' 2 damage and sacrifices a creature so it can be reused with another Rally. Sidisi, Undead Vizier can right away look for another Rally etc. Sidisi from KTK is also a creature that does a lot in this kind of deck. She mills and creates a token that stays in play after all the reanimated creatures leave the battlefield somehow. So why not play deck using all those cards? It would had to be 4c or something but that is still doable with all those lands we have available now. I'm also missing a creature like Flame-kin Zealot, but still with all those Siege Rhinos and token generating creatures I think this deck could possibly work. Since there would be a lot of good creatures it could just win by playing one threat after another (while also playing cheap cards like Qarsi Sadist or Elvish Visionary).
I need to build this on MODO...it sounds like fun^^ See this is just some spontaneous thoughts about a rogue deck for standard...

In modern there are many ways to build a deck and many of those decks work to some extent be it a very straightforward aggro deck or a very strange combo (usually about cheating Emrakul in play). Just look at something like Restore Balance deck^_^. Pyromancer's Ascension also started as a rogue deck...But no one says the deck has to cost 50 bucks! Just build your rogue decks the way you want, but if a certain card that is popular and good is the right choice for your deck just play it. This won't make your deck less 'rogue'.

Rogue decks are build when a rotation is in sight. With each new set or rotation people try to come up with new decks and ideas. Those decks are not called rogue decks though but brews and it is possible that because of this people start to relate budget decks with rogue decks rather than the definition I encountered first.

That's just my two cents...

What is your definition of a 'rogue deck'?

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